corinthianz2006 5pts this whole thing is complete BS, even if a car accelerates on its own, braking will stop the car, putting it in neutral will stop it, and even turning the key to the off position. obviously these are people looking to sue and make money off lies.
Ionian0101 5pts Toyota is responsible for the deaths of Americans, and now they have finally admitted it. It's a good day for justice.
ExtremelyOkay 5pts No car could overpower its brakes. Multiple websites have already debunked that BS, including C&D, Edmunds and even NASA.In the US, you sue the guy with the deepest pockets right or wrong.
corinthianz2006 5pts @ExtremelyOkay yeah I never believed that sudden acceleration BS. I don't think people in general dont believe it either cuz the same model year Toyotas have held their value extremely well
Stew 5pts @corinthianz2006 No they haven't, there have even been lawsuits about the depreciating value because of this, remember?
Stew 5pts If there was 100% nothing to the unintended acceleration, would Toyota really be buckling and paying out huge amounts to settle? Second, statistically, if it was just inattentive driver's, GM, selling more vehicles in the US than Toyota, should have had as many, if not more, unintended acceleration claims. I personally had thought this was blown out of proportion, but Toyota being willing to settle says a LOT.
BimmerWagon 5pts @Stew Toyota wants to talk about settlements because it is ridiculously time consuming and costly to pursue the lawsuits. Also, the media talking about the lawsuits every time there is a case hearing or whatever is a huge public relations problem. It is pretty obvious that Toyota and their team of lawyers realized that there is a possibility of losing more cases because of the Oklahoma case. Which then it really makes sense that Toyota is paying huge amounts to settle. There actions don't prove nor disprove that there is nothing regarding the unintended acceleration issues. Toyota is experiencing more claims than GM is probably because of the bandwagon issue. I mean there are unintended acceleration claims regarding other manufactures for years.
Stew 5pts @BimmerWagon@Stew Yes, i can see that, on the other hand it is basically like Toyota is admitting there was a problem......... Also, if this is group mentality, what does that say about the "group" that is purchasing Toyota's?
Emajor75 5pts @Iny@Stew That he has nothing better to do with himself than post on every Toyota article. My OCD has me checking multiple times that the front door is locked before bedtime. His requires him to obsessively question the intelligence and judgment of people who choose to buy a Toyota.
Emajor75 5pts @StewI stopped paying attention to this issue when Edmunds conducted a test in which they were able to stop a floored V6 Camry using the brakes some 3 years ago, so I'm a bit rusty here. But I'm open to the possibility of there being a mechanical problem causing unintended acceleration rather than user error IF someone provides actual evidence. Off the cuff crappy "analysis" like you are providing above isn't evidence, though. It's straw-grasping that conveniently supports your weird anti-Toyota obsession. Seriously, your obsession with Toyota owners is really weird. But back on topic: you say "statistically". Provide a link showing that there are fewer documented unintended acceleration cases in GM vehicles. Not unintended acceleration lawsuits, but unintended acceleration instances. I don't know where to find that data. Hopefully you do, though, or your entire comment above is manure. Which is typical of your "analyses" here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.And no, I'm not Black Dynamite so don't bring up that nonsense again.
Stew 5pts @Emajor75@Iny@Stew Like you don't on every other article trying to make Toyota seem better than everything else Mr. Black Dynamite, I mean EMajor75. You have the same total lack of tact he has. Besides, the Toyota lovers (most of which are black dynamite, including you) are the worst for trying to shift the issue to their favor and switch to petty middle school insults. You and all the Toyota lovers that go out of their way to try and make Toyota seem like the greatest, even in threads that have NOTHING to do with Toyota, are the reason ANYONE questions the intelligence and judgement of Toyota driver's Besides, i am not the one saying that all these people involved in these accidents are too dumb to stop the car. IMHO, there had to be some isue because of the sheer amount of people, you all are the ones saying that Toyota driver's are so dumb, they ALL had to be driver error........
Stew 5pts @Emajor75@Stew I am not reading that whole thing, , Ain't nobody got time for that......... Was this test by Edmunds done on a car with thousands of miles without fresh brakes and tires? I can guarantee every vehicle involved was not fresh off the showroom floor. The rest, i am just not reading, except for the last. If you are not BD, then I AM Santa Claus, and you have been a bad boy this year Mr. Vigilante, so coal for you.....
Emajor75 5pts @Stew@Emajor75 "I am not reading that whole thing, ain't nobody got time for that"My rant or the Edmunds article? Believe me, you need both.
Emajor75 5pts @Stew@Emajor75@Iny I'm glad this is all it takes to break down the fake wall of impartial analysis you hide behind. Look at your writing when you're mad, all run on sentences and BD conspiracy theories. Can you ever back up any of the claims you make? Where's the evidence that Toyotas have more per capita unintended acceleration cases than GM? Remember, you used that in two separate comments on this article. That would shut me up in a big hurry if you could provide it. But you can't, can you?
Stew 5pts @Emajor75@Stew@InyHoly crap, it is completely obvious. if GM had as many unintended acceleration claims, there would have been a NHTSA investigation as large as the one for Toyota. Have you ever heard of this thing called COMMON SENSE. That is the proof right there, I mean, if you actually HAVE any common sense...... And again, I am not the one saying all Toyota owners are horrible drivers and lawsuit mongers, it is all the Toyota "lovers" here. I understand the conundrum though. Either there are flaws in the cars or flaws in the people buying them, either way it is a lose/lose situation for people like you....
Stew 5pts @Emajor75@Stew LOL, I have read the Edmunds article before, so sorry, what i said above is correct. Also, what you write is the same tired diatribe trying to be the hero and savior against all the mad villains that don't think Toyota is the most amazing automaker out there.........
Ionian0101 5pts @jacobmarley80 Black Dynamite this finally proves it: Toyota really does suck. Boring styling and unreliable. And their cars may cause death due to unintended acceleration.
Bobby Miles 5pts http://www.rightinginjustice.com/news/2011/08/30/electronic-causes-for-sudden-acceleration-in-toyotas-likely-new-study-finds/There is an independent testing study that contradicts the NHTSA findings on this case. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/01/us/toyota-memo-acceleration-concerns/index.htmlToyota found possible issue with software on the adaptive cruise control.Electronic malfunction is a definite possibility that everybody who uses drive by wire technology should pay attention to. I believe that Toyota and the NHTSA is full of crap with their findings. Floor mat wouldn't stop you from throwing the car into neutral.
ExtremelyOkay 5pts Unintended acceleration. Yes. We believe that. Didn't the media prove it? Aren't the lawyers getting money from behind it? Then sure, it's not a faux at all.
Iny 5pts You/they forgot "user error." But why would they admit to that? Stupid me and my common sense... Money is king!
Stew 5pts @Iny If it was just user error, statistically, GM should have had as many "user errors" as Toyota with the similar or higher US sales.
torque freak 5pts This I know but I cannot help that people can help themselves by not buying a piece of crap toyolda but with most toyolda customers suffering from Alzheimer's and dementia I can see how they could make irrational decisions